generation of Chinese people, post-80s
Jan 15th 2011 00:25
The most unusual thing about the post-80s compared to the preceding generations was the "family planning policy" which was implemented in the early 80's. although the policy had been in existence since the 70's and even in the 60's, in 80's it became a nation-wide policy that was strictly enforced.
It reported that the one-child policy has succeeded in reducing the population of China by at least 2 hundred million, but now more and more, scholars are concerned with its drawbacks such as the male-female imbalance,ande rapidly graying population, etc.
The other drawback of the one-child policy is its influnce on the upbringing of children. In the 60's and 70's, it's common for a family to have several children, so most children grew up with siblings, with the parent paying equal attention to each child. But in one-child families, the parents will devote all of their energies to their child, often spoiling them in the process.
When the post-80s entered teenage, society/people began realize there was a very serious problem, with no siblings to share things with, and cosseted by parents, these post-80's became unsociable, self-concerned and emotional(/and were not emotionally robust).they didn't know how to get along with their peers. Within the family they became "little emperor", with everyone at their beck and call(/can't been scolded, every desire of them must been satisfied). They were heavily dependent on their parents for everything,(seriously lacking in independence).
Comparing them with the post-70s teenagers, people called the post 80s the "collapsed generation"! They compared them to their peers in Japan and other countries, and concluded that this generation are like greenhouse flowers which can't endure too much rain and wind. They couldn't imagine what the nation's future will be like under this generation. Criticisms appeared in the press, beseeching parents to cease spoiling their children.
With time, the post-80s gradually grow up, they did't "collapsed" as people feared, they passed through their teenage learning many things, and are no longer wayward. Now between the ages of 20 to 30, they are the most energetic generation in the society, they are exerting their ability everywhere.
Maybe they are the morst hardest (hit) generation now enduring the pressure of life in society, they are new the blood of society, without a strong foundation, they have to face severe life pressures immediately, becoming slaves to credit card debts, car loans, housing loans etc. As the only child, when they marry, they have to support two families of 4-8 older adults.
Because the post-80's were spoiled during their childhood, the post-80s and post-70s feel that they are entirely of a different generation, freauently recriminating each other. But now with the gradual emergence of the post-90s, both cant't tolerate the rebellious post-90s，who have become their common target. They now find that they are more similar and more like members of the same generation, particularly having similar childhood and cimple toys. They have both witnessed and experienced society's rapid changes and development over the past two decades.
Sometimes, they are nostalgic of the bygone days of their simple childhood.
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Original:
Though the post-80s born after the "reform and opening-up", but the country is still scarcity of goods, as my last journal series described, every things needed to be assigned by government using "coupon". But the living conditions were rather better than post-70s, at least they never experienced the thing called went hungry.
The most unusual thing about post-80s that different from the preceding generations was the "family planning policy" which was performed in early 80's. although the policy has put in practice in 70's even in 60's, but in 80's it was become a national formal decision and been strictly executed.
It was said that the one-child policy has at least reduced by 2 hundred millions of population of China, but nowadays it induced more and more drawback that many scholars concerned, like the composition of population unbalance, population aging etc.
The other drawback of one-child policy is to influenced the family upbringing of children. In 60's and 70's families, it's a common thing that a family has several children or even has seven or eight, all children grow up with siblings, the parent pay attention to each child. But when a family only has one child, the parent will devote all of their heart to this child, it's very easy to lead to spoiled.
When the post-80s in teenster, the society realize this is a very serious problem, Cause they have no siblings and been cosseted by parents, they become unsociability, self-concern and emotional.they don't know how to getting along with other peers, In family they are "little emperor", every one should surround with them, can't been scolded, every desire of them must been satisfied. They have strong dependent mind on their parents in every thing, seriously lack of independent life ability.
Compared with post-70s in teenar, people exclaimed this is a collapsed generation! They compared the peers of Japan or other countries, concluded that this generation are really greenhouse flowers, can't endure any rain and wind. Can't imagine the nation's future will burden on this looking generation. Many criticisms appeared in media and the press, appealed the parents no longer spoiled their child any more.
With the time fly, post-80s gradually grow up, they did't "collapsed" as people afraid, when they passed through the teenar time, they learn many things, no longer wayward, Now they are in age of 20 to 30, the most energetic generation in the society, they are exerting their ability in every where.
Maybe they are the hardest generation now enduring the pressure of life in society, they are new blood of the society, haven't any foundation, but they have to face severe life pressure immediately, become the slave of credit card paying, car loan, housing loan etc. Because of only one child, when they married, they have to maintain two family's at least 4 even 8 older adults.
Because of the character of been spoiled, post-70s and post-80s think they are entirely two generations at one time, recriminated each other frequently. But now with the emerge of post-90s, both them cant't tolerance the rebellious of post-90s，who was become the target of both post-70s and post-80s. They now found they are mostly similar，more like the same generation, especially the same simple childhood and toys. They both witness and experience the society's rapidly changes and development in this two decades.
They all some time nostalgia, for their cannot be recalled, similar short of goods and simple childhood.
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虽然80后是在“改革开放”之后出生的，但那时国家依然物资缺乏，就像我这系列的上次帖子所述，所有的东西都要用“票证”来保证公平供应。但这时的生活水平已经比70后那时候好多了，至少他们不会再挨饿了。
80后与其之前的几代人最不寻常的区别之处在于80年代初期所实行的“计划生育”政策。虽然这个政策在70年代甚至60年代就实施了，但在80年代它成为了一项国家决策并且被严格施行。
据说一胎化政策至少让中国人口节制了2亿人，但现在它已经引发越来越多的弊端，很多学者都在关注，比如人口结构失衡、老龄化等问题。
一胎化的另一个负面效应就是影响到了孩子的家教问题。在60年代或70年代的，一个家庭有几个孩子甚至7、8个孩子都是很正常的事，所有孩子都一起成长，父母照顾着每一个孩子，但是当一个家庭只有一个孩子时，父母就会将全部心血都倾注到这一个孩子身上，非常容易导致溺爱的产生。
当80后十几岁时，社会意识到了这是个很严重的问题。因为他们没有兄弟姐妹，并且一直被父母娇惯，他们变得不合群，自私，任性，他们不知道如何跟同龄孩子相处，在家庭里，他们是“小皇帝”，每个人都要围着他转，不能被责备，所有的愿望都要被满足。他们有极强的依赖父母心理，严重缺乏独立生活能力。
与70后小时候相比，人民惊呼这是垮掉的一代，将他们与同龄的日本或其他孩子相比，人们得出结论这是像温室里的花朵一样经受不了任何风雨的一代，简直不可想象这个民族的未来会让这个样子的一代人去负担，媒体和报刊杂志出现许多的批评，呼吁父母们再也不要娇惯他们的孩子了。
随着时间的流逝，80后渐渐成长了起来，他们并没有像人们担心的那样“垮掉”，当他们度过了青少期后，他们学会了很多东西，不再任性，现在他们都是20到30岁左右，是社会上最富活力的年轻一代，他们正在各个角落发挥着自己的能力。
也许可以说他们是现在社会生活压力最大的一代，他们是社会的新鲜血液，还没有任何基础，但是他们不得不立即就面对严峻的生活压力，成为卡奴、车奴、房奴等等。因为只有一个孩子，当他们结婚后，他们将不得不负担起双方家庭至少4位甚至是8位老人的赡养问题。
因为被娇惯的特点，70后与80后一度认为它们是完全不同的两代人，而且还互相批评，但是现在随着90后的逐渐浮现，70后与80后都无法容忍90后的反叛了，90后成了他们共同批判的对象。现在他们发现他们之间有更多的相似之处，他们更像同一代人，尤其是相同的纯朴儿时时光，简陋的玩具。他们共同见证和经历了20年来这个社会飞速的变迁和发展。
有时候他们都有些怀旧，为他们那一去不复返的单纯童年。
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People often over evaluate a situation. But actually when China's post-80 in teenage, people indeed afraid of them, their behave disappointed everyone, but when they grow up, all the flaws gone. I think the society maybe the best furnace for everyone's grow up.
In the Russian internet has articles with allegations that the Chinese have not accepted praise children for their achievements and general in dealing with children dominated by austerity.
Also would be very interested about role of old Chinese philosophy and religion in modern China.
Also just wanted to know what ordinary Chinese people think about Tibet. On Chinese maps as far as I know - no such country as Tibet.
Oh as I see i have many wishes. If you answer any of them - I'll be very grateful.
谢谢你
About Tibet, I want write here not to made another thread
Chinese people think Tibet undoubted the China territory while westerner not conceded it, in my opinion, it's understandable, who wants a large, unified China, it's indeed a threat to any countries.
Tibet as a vassal state of China since Tang Dynasty(about 6th-9th Century), after Yuan Dynasty(12-13th Century) it's become a 内藩(inner vassal state, more closer than a vassal state, even the magistrate were assigned by central government of China emperor), so did in Ming Dynasty(13-16th Century), in Qing Dynasty(16-19th Century), it become an official administrative region of Qing, like other province of China.
In 19th Century China was on decline, many vassal states even the frontier province like Mongolia, Sinkiang(Xinjiang) and Tibet were rebelled for break away the China emperor or government. Because the interference of Russian Empire and Soviet Union, part of Mongolia province independence from China and become the Mongolia country today, the rebellions in SinKiang were quashed, and the British aped Soviet Uninon want Tibet independence, but failed, they only signed a private agreement with the 13th Dalai Lama in 1913 while the central government of China not conceded it, I think this is the root cause of why westerners consider Tibet as a independent country instead of a local province of China. In fact, even Dalai and British had the agreement, they still didn't declare Tibet independence from China, still participate in China congress as a local administrative region.
After new China set up in 1949, the 14th Dalai Lama negotiated a peace treaty with central government of China admited Tibet is a administrative region of China.
Because the 14th Dalai Lama was reluctant to give up the Tibet serf system, they made more and more conflicts with the magistrate of government, in 1959 he rip up the peace agreement and declare Tibet independence, of couse the rebellion was suppressed immediately, the 14th Dalai Lama fled abroad untill today, and advocating Tibet's separation from China every where.
Of cause, the westerner prefer listen to Dalai Lama rather than communist China government, it's understandable also.
This is what I have know about Tibet, I think most Chinese same with me, but why westerner think Tibet is a country, actually I have no notion of it.
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">As mentioned in my last journal entry, the post-80s were born after the "reform and opening-up" but the country was still experiencing scarcity of goods. In order to ensure fairness, every thing was distributed by the government using "coupons".
But the living conditions were rather better than for the post-70s, at least they didn't know what it was like to go hungry.
The most unusual thing about the post-80s compared to the preceding generations was the "family planning policy" which was implemented in the early 80's.
although the policy had been in existence since the 70's and even in the 60's, but in the 80's it became a nation-wide policy that was strictly enforced.
It is reported that the one-child policy has succeeded in reducing the population of China by <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">at least 2 hundred million, but now more and more, scholars are concerned with its drawbacks such as the male-female imbalance, and rapidly graying population (<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">老龄化), etc.
The other drawback of the one-child policy is its influence on the upbringing of children.
In the 60's and 70's, it's common for a family to have several children, so most children grew up with siblings, with the parent paying equal attention to each child.
But in one-child families, the parents will devote all of their energies to their child, often spoiling them in the process.
When the post-80s entered teenage, society/people began to realize there was a very serious problem, with no siblings to share things with, and cosseted by their parents, <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">these post-80's became unsociable, self-centered and emotional (/and were not emotionally robust).
They didn't know how to get along with their peers. Within the family they became "little emperors", with everyone at their beck and call (/can't been scolded, every desire of them must been satisfied).
they were heavily dependent on their parents for everything, (seriously lacking in independence).
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Comparing them to the post-70s teenagers, people called the post 80s the 'collapsed' generation!
They compared them to their peers in Japan and other countries, and concluded that this generation are like greenhouse flowers which can't endure too much rain and wind.
They couldn't imagine what the nation's future will be like under this generation.
Criticisms appeared in the press, beseeching parents to cease spoiling their children.
With time, the post-80s gradually grew up, they didn't "collapse" as people feared, they passed through their teenage learning many things, and are no longer wayward. Now between the ages of 20 to 30, they are the most energetic generation in the society, they are exerting their ability everywhere.
Maybe they are the most hardest (hit) generation now enduring the pressures of life in society, they are the new blood of society; without a strong foundation, they have to face severe life pressures immediately, becoming slaves to credit card debts, car loans, housing loans etc.
As the only child, when they marry, they have to support two families of 4-8 older adults.
Because the post-80's were spoiled during their childhood, the post-80s and post-70s feel that they are entirely of a different generation, frequently recriminating each other.
But now with the gradual emergence of the post-90s, both can't tolerate the rebellious post-90s，who have become their common target.
They now find that they are more similar and more like members of the same generation, particularly having similar childhood and simple toys.
They have both witnessed and experienced society's rapid changes and development over the past two decades.
Sometimes, they are nostalgic of the bygone days of their simple childhood.
Nowadays people usually approval the policy and supporte it, because everyone experienced what the concept of the population. More important, with many welfare policies of socialism been abrogated, to bring up a child is a very hardship work now, to avoid the living standard falling, people usually birth one child on their own initiative.
Recent Korea has been experiencing the opposite situation of China's. Korea's government is encouraging people to have more babies, providing many benifits to the third child. But many families in the city wouldn't have more than two because of financial problems.
In my opinion, Korea is not yet a developed country. She has many problems from both developed countries and developing ones. As to DINKs, they are still very rare in Korea.
In China, DINKs also rare, I haven't see any of them, but some organization said in big cities there are more than 10% families DINKs， I doubt about it.
As mentioned in my last journal entry, the Post-80s were born after the "reform and opening-up" but the country was still experiencing scarcity of goods. (capitalize proper nouns)
In order to ensure fairness, everything was distributed by the government using "coupons".
But the living conditions were rather better than for the Post-70s, at least they didn't know what it was like to go hungry.
The most unusual thing about unique attribute of the post-80s compared to the preceding generations was the "family planning policy" which was implemented in the early 80's.
Although the policy had been in existence since the 70's and even in the 60's, in the 80's it became a nation-wide policy that was strictly enforced.
It has been reported that the one-child policy has succeeded in reducing the population of China by at least 2 hundred million, but now more and more scholars are concerned about its drawbacks, such as the male-female imbalance and rapidly graying aging population, etc. (The etc is not needed because you already imply there are other problems besides the male-female imbalance and rapidly aging population)
The other drawback of the one-child policy is its influence on the upbringing of children.
In the 60's and 70's, it was common for a family to have several children, so most children grew up with siblings, with the parent paying equal attention to each child. (you cannot use "it's" to stand in for "it was", so it has to be expanded for past tense)
But in one-child families, the parents will devote all of their energies to their one child, often spoiling them in the process.
When the post-80s entered their teenage years, society/people began to realize that there was a very serious problem. With no siblings to share things with, and cosseted coddled by parents, these post-80's became antisocial, narcissistic, and emotionally unstable.