practice of making various 'if' sentences

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1. British university will accept students from abroad as long as international students approach good English levels.

2. Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience providing that you want to make your carrer securely.

3. Most banks are happy to lend customers money unless they have any complaints about high rates of interests.

4. The government will reduce incom tax on condition that its nation is in enough funds.

5. The environmental situation will continue to worsen however many efforts you make.

6. There will always be long waiting lists at our hospitals no matter how efficiently we run our systems.
Feb 12th 2012 12:18 zoombies

  • British university will accept students from abroad as long as international students approach good English levels.
  • British university will accept students from abroad as long as international students have good English levels.

 

  • Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience providing that you want to make your carrer securely.
  • Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience provided that you want to make your career securely.

 

  • The government will reduce incom tax on condition that its nation is in enough funds.
  • The government will reduce income tax on the condition that its nation has enough funds.

 

  • The environmental situation will continue to worsen however many efforts you make.
  • The environmental situation will continue to worsen no matter however much effort you make.

 
Just tidied up some stuff, but your 'if' sentences are really good :)
Keep it up :)
Feb 12th 2012 13:42 yeonju
Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience provided that you want to make your career securely.
is there any difference between providing that and provided that?
Feb 12th 2012 13:44 yeonju
The environmental situation will continue to worsen no matter however much effort you make.
oh this is however many, it's different from no matter how many or much, right?

anyway thank you so much for your comment! :)
Feb 12th 2012 14:28 zoombies
I'm not sure about the difference between providing that and provided that, all I can tell you is that I think provided that makes the sentence flow better.

With however many and no matter, it might come down to a matter of preference or how the sentence sounds. I personally use however many in a positive sentence (I'm gonna win the award, however many times I have to try) and no matter in a negative sentence (I'm gonna fail this exam, no matter how many times I try).

:):)
Feb 21st 2012 20:02 TheFrozenSkies
If my understanding is right, "provided that" is assuming that something is already thought to be true, and "providing that" is assuming that something will become true in the near future.

i.e. "provided that you want to make your career secure" = I think that you want to make your career secure, so I will talk about this

i.e. "providing that you want to make your career secure" = I'm not sure if you want to make your career secure, but if you do then I will talk about this.



So..
Basically, the word "provide" means to give, usually information.
provided = you have given me information
providing = if you give me information

Hope that makes sense.
Feb 22nd 2012 19:57 yeonju
wow! this is so great! I feel like being an expert of providing and provided that. lol. Thanks a lot!!! :)
Feb 16th 2012 01:50 TheBigFish

  • British university will accept students from abroad as long as international students approach good English levels.
  • British universities will accept students from abroad as long as they have good English score.*Since you want to talk about British universities in general you have to use the plural form because there is more than one university in Britain. When you mention students again you can use the pronoun form rather than repeating the same long phrase to describe them. I would say score rather than levels. If you use the word level, it should not be plural.

 

  • Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience providing that you want to make your carrer securely.
  • Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience providing that you want to make your career secure.*Actually the two parts of the sentences have no correlation, so while the "if" sentence structure is correct the sentence does not actually make sense. Better sentence would be: Working for a large company can be a fulfilling experience providing (provided) that the company allows you to grow. There is no difference between "provided that" and "providing that" both can be used in a sentence interchangeably. With the conjunction "provided that" or "providing that" you can actually omit the word "that."

 

  • Most banks are happy to lend customers money unless they have any complaints about high rates of interests.
  • Most banks are happy to lend customers money unless they (customers) have complaints about the high interest rates.*In this case, they is unclear as to who it is referring to (banks or customers) so it is better to go with the noun rather than the pronoun. You need the article the since you are talking about specific noun.

 

  • The environmental situation will continue to worsen however many efforts you make.
  • The environmental situation will continue to worsen no matter how much effort you put in.*Make is the wrong verb. Either "put in" or "apply" are the correct verbs for this sentence.

 

  • There will always be long waiting lists at our hospitals no matter how efficiently we run our systems.
  • There will always be long waiting lists at our hospitals no matter how efficiently we run our systems.

 
Good job with your writing. Sorry, I added a lot to your sentences. Please take a look at my comments that I wrote beneath them. Stay hungry, I mean, for learning English^.~
Feb 16th 2012 14:58 yeonju
Terrific! Very clear and detailed explanations! I feel like being a very 서투른 포식자 though. ^^
Feb 16th 2012 16:23 TheBigFish
Everyone starts off that way, look at my Korean, but with more practice you become better. Stay hungry and don't give up. I'll keep correcting.

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