A Weird Relationship Between Japan and Beethoven Ninth Symphony

PUBLIC_FLAG_#{@journal.pf_int} RSS feed of tigerace's latest journal entries Dec 03rd 2011 02:46 Classical music orchestra symphony No.9 Beethoven WWI

The Symphony No.9 composed by Beethoven is affectionately called "Daiku" in Japanese.

Concerts featuring the symphony "Daiku" are held throughout Japan in every December.

Why is "Daiku" so popular in Japan? 

Why is it performed in December?


A movie showing a reason, called "Bart no Gakuen" (Ode an die Freude), was screened in Japan in 2006.

It starred one of the greatest Japanese actors, Ken Matsudaira, and one of the greatest German actors, Bruno Gantz.

However it turned out to be a failure due to poor communication between the Japanese director and the German actors.

This is a trailer followed by some scenes.




It was based upon the true story about a prison camp during WWI.

I read some books and checked the Internet in order to investigate the truth about the movie, and I found that fact is stranger than fiction.

Japan had been allied with Great Britain since 1902.

When World War I occured in 1914, Great Britain engaged in warfare with Germany, so Japan also declared war against Germany.

The Japanese army using 29,000 soldiers launched a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.

Eventually, the German soldiers raised the white flag in surrender.

They were detained in several camps in Japan.


There was one camp at a very small town, Bando, on the Shikoku Island during WWI.

Captain Toyohisa Matsue ran the camp, but he was an odd director.

He treated the prisoners humanely according to the Haag Convention, which was not well known among Japanese commanders then.


He came from the Aidu Domain in the northeast Japan.

The Aidu Domain took sides with Shogun in the Meiji Restoration, so they were beaten and massacred by the Imperial Forces.

Matsue was a son of an Aidu samurai, who survived the oppression from the Meiji Government, and then entered the military.

He decided not to make any of the prisoners feel such humiliation.


The German prisoners of war were treated as such in order to restore their dignity.

They showed the people of Bando their advanced skills and technologies in return.

Before long, the locals respected the prisoners.

There formed a strange friendship.

Then the Ninth Symphony was performed by an orchestra made up of a select group of the prisoners, for the first time.

Some Japanese, who had been taught by the prisoners, joined the orchestra.

The "Daiku" was very touching.

Since then "Daiku" had often been performed by Japanese orchestra.

It was played as the indication of friendship across nationalities then and became gradually popular.



On December 31, 1940, "Daiku" was conducted by Joseph Rosenstock, perfomed by the New Symphony Orchestra (currently, the NHK Symphony Orchestra) and broadcast live on the radio in order to commemorate the 2,600th anniversary of founding the nation.

According to a myth, it is said that the first Emperor Jinmu took to the throne in the year 660 B.C.

When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that there were special performances of the Ninth Symphony throughout Germany every December 31.

This is partly because we have the tradition of having "Daiku" concerts near the end of the year.

To tell the truth, only the Gewandhaus Orchestra of Leipzig has the annual concert on New Year's Eve, so the answer was incorrect.


The other reason is the financial problem of an orchestra member.

Bill collectors always persecuted debtors in the recession after WWII.

They used to demand full repayment from a borrower by New Year's Eve.

Musicians were always poor and needed much money in December.

However when "Daiku" would be performed, the concert tickets are always sold out.

So they wanted to perform "Daiku" near the end of the year.


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One of these annual concerts may seem peculiar to the Western people.

It is the biggest classical concert, "Suntory Presents Beethoven's 9th with a Cast of 10000," in the Osaka Castle Hall.

It is performed by a special orchestra that includes foreign players and an amateur chorus group consisting of 10,000 people mainly from the Kansai district.

The choir trains intensively for about four months.

The audience of 7,000 is also allowed to sing a part of the chorus.

It may not be so much a concert as a religious ritual.


This year's concert is going to be held on December 4th.

Moreover the 200 member of the Tohoku choir, who were affected by the 3.11 disaster, will join the chorus via live remote broadcasting.


The current conductor is Maestro Yutaka Sado.

He was an apprentice of Leonard Bernstein and then won the International Besançon Competition for Young Conductors in 1989.

This is the video of the last chorus from the concert in 2009.



If Beethoven attended the concert, would he be happy or mad?

The concert will be broadcast on December 23, the Emperor's Birthday.

Dec 03rd 2011 04:53 aaronlg

  • Why is "Daiku" very popular in Japan?
  • Why is "Daiku" so popular in Japan?

2 people think this correction is good.  

  • The movie, which was titled "Bart no Gakuen" (Ode an die Freude), was screened in Japan in 2006.
  • A movie showing the reason, called "Bart no Gakuen" (Ode an die Freude), was screened in Japan in 2006.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • It starred one of the greeatest Japanese actors, Ken Matsudaira, and one of the greatest German actors, Bruno Gantz.
  • It starred one of the greatest Japanese actors, Ken Matsudaira, and one of the greatest German actors, Bruno Gantz.

 

  • Though it was a failure because of poor communication of the Japanese director and German actors.
  • However, it was a failure because of poor communication of the Japanese director and German actors.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • This is a trailor followed by some scenes.
  • This is a trailer followed by some scenes.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • It was based upon the real story about a prison camp during WWI.
  • It was based upon the true story of a prison camp during WWI.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • I consulted some books and the Internet to investigate the truth of the movie, so I found that fact is stranger than fiction.
  • I consulted some books and the Internet to investigate the truth of the movie, and I found that fact is stranger than fiction.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • When World War I occured in 1914, Great Britain engaged in warfare with Germany, so Japan declared war against Germany.
  • When World War I occured in 1914, Great Britain engaged in warfare with Germany, so Japan also declared war against Germany.

 

  • The Japanese army with 29,000 soldiers had a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.
  • The Japanese army with 29,000 soldiers launched a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.

 

  • There was a camp at the very small town, Bando, in the Shikoku Island during WWI.
  • There was one camp in a small village called Bando, on Shikoku Island during WWI.

 

  • Matsue was a son of Aidu samurai, survived the oppression from the Meiji Government and then entered the military.
  • Matsue was the son of Aidu samurai, who survived the oppression from the Meiji Government and then entered the military.

 

  • He decided not to make any prisoners feel such humiliation.
  • He decided not to make any of the prisoners feel such humiliation.

 

  • Since then "Daiku" had been often performed by Japanese orchestra and became popular.
  • Since then "Daiku" had been often performed by Japanese orchestras and has become popular.

 

  • According to a myth, it is said that the first emperor Jinmu acceded to the throne in the year 660 B.
  • According to a myth, it is said that the first emperor Jinmu took the throne in the year 660 B.

 

  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that they had the concert of the Symphony No.9 in Germany on December 31 every year.
  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that they held a concert of the Ninth Symphony in Germany on December 31 every year.

 

  • This is why we have the habit of having "Daiku" concert near the end of the year.
  • This is why we have the habit of having "Daiku" concerts near the end of the year.

1 people think this correction is good.  
Great job! Most of the things I changed were only to make you sound more like a native speaker.

I think Beethoven would be happy that his 9th Symphony has such worldwide appeal. I wonder what it's like to be at a concert with that many singers. The one time I saw Beethoven's 9th in concert, there were only about 50 people in the chorus!
Dec 03rd 2011 10:51 tigerace
Thank you very much for your correction.

They sing the chorus as the requiem for the victims of the disaster this year and making a wish that it will be all right next year.

Therefore the concert should be fanatic and enthusiastic.

Because we have a traditional belief that uttering a thought breathes life into it.
Dec 03rd 2011 05:25 student113

  • The Symphony No.9 composed by Beethoven is affctionately called "Daiku" in Japanese.
  • The Symphony No.9 composed by Beethoven (I usually recognize it "Beethoven's 9th Symphony") is affectionately called "Daiku" in Japanese.

 

  • It starred one of the greeatest Japanese actors, Ken Matsudaira, and one of the greatest German actors, Bruno Gantz.
  • It starred one of the greatest Japanese actors, Ken Matsudaira, and one of the greatest German actors, Bruno Gantz.

 

  • Though it was a failure because of poor communication of the Japanese director and German actors.
  • Though it was However, it turned out to be a failure because of (or "due to") poor communication of between the Japanese director and the German actors.

 

  • I consulted some books and the Internet to investigate the truth of the movie, so I found that fact is stranger than fiction.
  • I consulted read some books and checked the Internet in order to investigate the truth of about the movie, so and I found that fact is stranger than fiction.

 

  • The Japanese army with 29,000 soldiers had a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.
  • The Japanese army, using with 29,000 soldiers, had engaged in a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.

 

  • There was a camp at the very small town, Bando, in the Shikoku Island during WWI.
  • There was a camp at the a very small town, Bando, in the Shikoku Island during WWI.

 

  • He treated the prisoners humanly according to the Haag Convention, which was less known to Japanese commanders then.
  • He treated the prisoners humanely according to the Haag Convention, which was less known to ("among"?) Japanese commanders then.

 

  • Matsue was a son of Aidu samurai, survived the oppression from the Meiji Government and then entered the military.
  • Matsue was a son of an Aidu samurai, survived the oppression from the Meiji Government and then entered the military.

 

  • The German prisoners were so treated as to restore their dignity.
  • The German prisoners were so treated as such as in order to restore their dignity.

 

  • They showed Bando people their advanced skills and technologies in return.
  • They showed the people of Bando people their advanced skills and technologies in return.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • There were filled with a strange friendship.
  • There were filled with formed a strange friendship.

 

  • Then the Symphony No.9 was performed by the orchestra, selected from the prisoners, for the first time.
  • Then the Symphony No.9 was performed by the an orchestra, selected from the made up by a select group of prisoners, for the first time.

 

  • Since then "Daiku" had been often performed by Japanese orchestra and became popular.
  • Since then "Daiku" had been often had often been performed by Japanese orchestras(?) and became popular.

 

  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that they had the concert of the Symphony No.9 in Germany on December 31 every year.
  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered ("replied") that they had the held a concert of for the Symphony No.9 in Germany on every December 31 every year.

 

  • This is why we have the habit of having "Daiku" concert near the end of the year.
  • This is why we have the habit (tradition) of having (holding) "Daiku" concert(s?) near the end of the year.

 

  • It is perfomed by the special orchestra including foreign players and an amateur chorus group consisting of 10,000 people mainly from the Kansai district.
  • It is performed by the special orchestra including that includes foreign players and an amateur chorus group consisting of 10,000 people mainly from the Kansai district.

1 people think this correction is good.  

  • The choir have been intensively trained for about four months.
  • The choir have been has trained intensively trained for about four months.

 

  • The audience of 7,000 are also allowed to sing a part of the chorus.
  • The audience of 7,000 are is also allowed to sing a part of the chorus.

 

  • Moreover 1,000 Tohoku choir, who were affected by the 3.11 disaster, will join the chorus via the live remote broadcasting.
  • Moreover the 1,000-member Tohoku choir, who were affected by the 3/11 disaster, will join the chorus via the live remote broadcasting.

 
Lol, why would Beethoven be mad?
Dec 03rd 2011 11:04 tigerace
Thank you for your detailed correction.

Even Mahler disliked that his eighth symphony was called "Symphonie der Tausend."

Beethoven also would be angry to read the title of the concert because he had a short temper.

I'm not sure what he would say if he saw the extraordinary chorus.

But he can catch the voices of more than 10,000 people.

I wish he allowed the oriental people to interpret his music as we like, seeing the choir singing in a serious manner.
Dec 03rd 2011 11:10 student113
Okay, I see. I don't know a lot about Beethoven, so thanks for the info :)
Dec 03rd 2011 11:18 tigerace
No problem.
Dec 03rd 2011 10:06 JW

Fascinating post and great English!
Dec 03rd 2011 13:42 tigerace
Thank you for reading such a long entry and your comment.
Dec 03rd 2011 10:47 Hugh

  • The Japanese army using 29,000 soldiers launched a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed.
  • The Japanese army, 29,000 strong, launched a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed. >this is a common idiomatic usage

 

  • He treated the prisoners humanely according to the Haag Convention, which was less known among Japanese commanders then.
  • He treated the prisoners humanely according to the Hague Convention, which was not well-known among Japanese commanders then. > if you use "less", you need to make some kind of comparison----to the present-day, perhaps?

 

  • The German prisoners were treated as such in order to restore their dignity.
  • The German prisoners-of-war were treated as such in order to restore their dignity. >i.e. the special status of "prisoner-of-war" was recognized

 

  • Then the Symphony No.9 was performed by an orchestra made up bya select group of the prisoners, for the first time.
  • Then the Symphony No.9 was performed by an orchestra made up of a select group of the prisoners, for the first time.

 

  • Some Japanese, who were taught by the prisoners, joined the orchestra.
  • Some Japanese, who had been taught by the prisoners, joined the orchestra.

 

  • Since then "Daiku" had often been performed by Japanese orchestra and became popular.
  • Since then "Daiku" has often been performed by Japanese orchestras and has became popular.

 

  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that they held a concert for the Ninth Symphony in Germany every December 31.
  • When the concert producer was asked why "Daiku" was selected, he answered that there was a special performance of the Ninth Symphony in Germany every December 31.

 

  • One of the annual concerts seems peculiar to the Western people.
  • One of these annual concerts may seem peculiar to the Western people.

 

  • It is performed by the special orchestra that includes foreign players and an amateur chorus group consisting of 10,000 people mainly from the Kansai district.
  • It is performed by a special orchestra that includes foreign players and an amateur chorus group consisting of 10,000 people mainly from the Kansai district.

 

  • The choir has been trained intensively for about four months.
  • The choir trains intensively for about four months. >since this is the same routine every year, Present Tense is better.

 

  • The current conductor is a maestro, Yutaka Sado.
  • The current conductor is Maestro Yutaka Sado. >"Maestro" is usually used as a title, like "Sensei".

 

  • If Beethoven attended the concert, he would be mad.
  • If Beethoven attended the concert, he would be mad. >hey, that's cruel!

 
So, this tradition is based on a lie! Fascinating. I think it's a nice tradition.
Dec 03rd 2011 11:23 tigerace
The Japanese army, 29,000 strong, launched a bitter attack on the Qing Tao Fortress in China where 4,300 German soldiers were stationed. >this is a common idiomatic usage
I appreciate you kindly help.

"The Japanese army, 29000 strong" is an abbreviation of 29000 strong soldiers, right?
Dec 03rd 2011 23:40 Ryan the Wired
"29,000 strong" is more like saying "the force of 29,000 soldiers".
Dec 03rd 2011 23:41 Ryan the Wired
Or the "strength of 29,000 soldiers".
Dec 03rd 2011 23:54 tigerace
Thank you for your explanation.
Dec 03rd 2011 13:56 Ryan the Wired

Fascinating. Thank you for posting; I learned many interesting things.
Dec 03rd 2011 20:34 tigerace
Thank you for your comment.

This is the trailer of the concert this year.

http://www.mbs.jp/daiku/movie/index.shtml#ooid=d0c2VoMjpcS7qSFq8GcOKe_9KjzwB5Te
Dec 03rd 2011 23:43 Ryan the Wired
In the video, it seems like everyone is having fun. They are all smiling and seem very happy, and for that, I think the concert is a success.
Dec 03rd 2011 23:53 tigerace
The trailer described the last year performers' impression.
The real part this year will start in 15 hours.
Perhaps the performers will have moved to tears when the concert is finished.
Dec 04th 2011 03:01 Bread

Interesting story, thanks for it. I kept waiting for you to explain why it was called "Daiku," until I got to the end and then finally realized that it was just 第九. I kept thinking of 大工 or something.
Dec 04th 2011 11:58 tigerace
Haha, 大工 and 第九 are different in intonation , so we can tell 大工 from 第九 hearing them.
If you write them in alphabet, you might as well write Daiku for 第九、daiku for 大工.
Dec 05th 2011 03:27 Old Rasputin

Wow! I can't speak for Beethoven, but I think this is fantastic. I would love to see a concert of this scale live! Of course it doesn't hurt that the Beethoven 9th is among my most favorite works. Thanks for posting this!
Dec 05th 2011 07:41 tigerace
You are welcome.
Jan 11th 2012 12:49 Hayden (ヘイデン)

I'm a cellist, so I've played Beethoven 9 a few times. It's really difficult... sometimes stressful. I can imagine that the orchestra must have practiced hard to make the concert a success. But, I'm happy that everyone can share this tradition and enjoy music together. As a musician, this makes me happy. :-) Thanks for sharing!
Jan 11th 2012 12:52 Hayden (ヘイデン)
p.s. しょうちしましたww 僕もミタさんが好きです。♪(v^_^)v
Mar 07th 2012 08:33 tigerace
You are welcome.
Feb 17th 2012 22:37 ジャネット

Your English is soooo good! It is difficult for me to make any corrections!
Mar 07th 2012 08:32 tigerace
Thank you very much.
Mar 06th 2012 19:06 Jonathan

This entry was really interesting, I learnt a lot! Thank you so much for sharing this.
Mar 07th 2012 08:31 tigerace
You are welcome.

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