@ I Wonder Why I Can't Enjoy the Chat-Room As Much As I Expect

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Yesterday, I went to an English chat room in my city, and I was not able to get many chances to speak as usual. I spoke only two or three sentences in an hour.


After coming back home, I still felt hungry for speaking English, because I kind of try to force myself to expect to enjoy the chat there. So, I took a shot at attending a chat room on the internet as soon as I got home.

It's actually strange for me to speak to strangers even on the net, but I was lucky to come across a gentlemanly man there. I was being realistic about practicing English, and also it was good to know that he had the same idea about it. We exchanged languages for a while. I was satisfied anyway; not very full though..


I sometimes think about the value of "expectation." It is supposed to be a significant step to be positive, right? But still, at the same time, it could cause dissatisfaction if my expectations are not live up to.


Since I started going to the chat room, where there are an Aussie-teacher and other six Japanese people, I have been expecting more of it each time.


Maybe It's time I thought about why I'm unable to enjoy myself as much as I expect to.

One of the reasons that I came up with is that I might not be able to understand Aussie jokes, because I have been watching American comedies a lot. Are they very different?

Another reason is that I'm not good with people in a group, I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.

Thank you for reading this, everyone (^^)
Feb 01st 2012 12:28 Roger

I've been meaning to try a Japanese chat room, though I haven't gotten around to it yet.I still don't get a lot of Japanese jokes or idioms, but since I watch a decent amount of anime, I have started understanding more. I just understood the seven lights thing, and the cat's hand thing. Also, are Australian jokes different from american ones?
Feb 01st 2012 22:38 mirai
Hi Roger!

Thank you for coming by and leaving your comment!!!

Maybe you know more about Japanese things than I do, because I have no idea about the seven lights thing and the cat's hand thing...(^^)
Feb 01st 2012 12:32 翔太

No time to correct, so i'll just respond.

I had a similar problem with Japanese. I went to a site called "チャベリ," and every time i go there, i speak very, very little until there's only 2 or 3 people left. This is mainly because i simply don't have enough vocabulary to keep up. Perhaps you should consider adding people on lang-8 to messengers like skype, MSM, and the like. You should even consider trying IRC if you want to work your way on up (IRC is geared towards rooms, but you can still have 1 on 1 chats and even control the number of people you talk to with careful planning).
Feb 01st 2012 22:41 mirai
Thank you, 翔太

I checked what IRC was, it seems that it is a chat room but only by text? I'm actually not interested in chatting by text only, so IRC is not a place for me.

Thank you for your advice, I am going to think about it.

Feb 02nd 2012 12:26 翔太
Then you should consider Teamspeak, Ventrillo, and Skype.
Feb 02nd 2012 13:23 mirai
Ok, I will check them out later, as I'm going out soon.

Thank you!!!
Feb 01st 2012 12:36 Zarma

  • I spoke two or three sentences for an hour.
  • I spoke two or three sentences for an hour. (Alt: During the hour I was there, I spoke two or three sentences. Changing 'for' to 'in' might make it sound better too.)

 

  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry to speak English, because I tentatively expect me enjoying the chat in there.
  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry to speak English, because I tentatively expect to enjoy the chat there. (Eh, not sure how best to change the last part of this sentence.)

 

  • It's actually strange for me to speak to strangers even on the net, but I was lucky to come across a gentleman-sounded man there.
  • It's actually strange for me to speak to strangers even on the net, but I was lucky to come across a gentlemanly man there. (Gentlemanly is the adjective form. Might be weird in conversation, unless you're speaking with an English major.)

 

  • Another reason is that I'm not good at people in a group, I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.
  • Another reason is that I'm not good with people in a group, I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.

 
Your English is very good :D. I've talked to a lot of Australians, and I don't think their sense of humor is too much different. I think if you can find the cleverness is any sort of joke, it can be funny though. Just requires time and getting used to.

僕の日本語はまだ上手ではありませんのに、IRCやチャットとかで日本人と話すのは本当に楽しいと思います。 でも、時差は不便ですよ。
Feb 01st 2012 22:48 mirai
Hi Zarma!

Thank you for your corrections and comment!!!

IRC って、タイプだけのチャットですか? Text chat only?
楽しいチャットの場所が見つかってよかったね。 

いろいろ考えてくれて、ありがとう!

Feb 02nd 2012 12:31 Zarma
はい、IRCはテキストだけです。

IRCということは「Internet Relay Chat」です。 
Feb 02nd 2012 13:25 mirai
Ah, 知りませんでした。 教えてくれてありがとう!!!

I actually prefer to chat by voice, because it's one of the hardest part. I should be quick to reply when I speak.

今から、その練習に出かけます。 どうなるかなあ?
Feb 01st 2012 12:47 Sunny

I think speaking in groups is only easy when each person has something to input. When I was younger, I didn't like big groups because I didn't have much to say.

Fortunately, I can talk about anything nowadays. I think I certainly have developed.
Feb 01st 2012 22:54 mirai
Hi Sunny,

Thank you for your comment and understanding.

Maybe I think too much about other people's feelings in a group. In the chat room, there are only two people who bring up topics and speak up, which are the Aussie teacher and one Japanese. What am I doing there!? (^^)
Feb 01st 2012 13:05 im_just_a_patsy

  • I Wonder Why I Can't Enjoy the Chat-Room As Much As I Expect?
  • I Wonder Why I Can't Enjoy the Chat-Room As Much As I Expect?

 

  • I spoke two or three sentences for an hour.
  • I spoke two or three sentences in the span of an hour. (for an hour makes it sounds like it took you an hour to speak those two or three sentences)

 

  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry to speak English, because I tentatively expect me enjoying the chat in there.
  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry for speaking English, because (usually) I tentatively expect to enjoying the chat in there.

 

  • So, I gave a shot to attend a chat room on the internet as soon as I got home.
  • So, I took a shot at attending a chat room on the internet as soon as I got home.

 

  • I was satisfied anyway, not very full though..
  • I was satisfied anyway; not very full though...

 

  • But still, at the same time, it could cause dissatisfaction, if the expectations are not as good as I think.
  • But still, at the same time, it could cause dissatisfaction, if the my expectations are not lived up to.

 

  • Since I started going to the chat room, where an Aussie-teacher and other six Japanese people are, I have been placing more expectations on it each time.
  • Since I started going to the chat room, where there is an Aussie-teacher and other six Japanese people are, I have been expecting more of it each time.

 

  • Maybe It's time I should think about why I was not able to enjoy it as much as I had expected.
  • Maybe It's time I should think about why I was not able to enjoy it as much as I had expected. This sentence is awkward. You want to try either "Maybe it's time I thought about why I'm unable to enjoy myself as much as I expect to" or "Maybe I should think about why I'm unable to enjoy it as much as I expect to"Also, replacing "think about" with "ask myself" would be a good idea.

 

  • One of the reasons that I came up with is I might not be able to understand Aussie jokes, because I have been watching American comedies a lot?
  • One of the reasons that I came up with is that I might not be able to understand Aussie jokes, because I have been watching American comedies a lot?

 
Your English is very good. Much of what I corrected wasn't really wrong, but it just sounded a little off. Keep doing your best!

I wish my Japanese was as good as your English. I'm incapable of putting a sentence together in under 30 seconds when I'm speaking aloud, so I stay away from chat rooms. I would probably benefit from one-on-one chats, though.
Feb 01st 2012 23:02 mirai
Hi Patsy! Can I call you patsy? (^^)

Since I wrote this entry, I have had a thought that I might stay away from group-chat-rooms for my English. The other day, I decided to participate other two groups for my English from next week though~~~gee~I already paid for it. It would be a big challenge for me.

Thank you for your corrections and comment!!!



Feb 02nd 2012 03:43 im_just_a_patsy
You're welcome! hope all is well for you. (yes, you can call me Patsy if you want)
Feb 01st 2012 13:42

  • I Wonder Why I Can't Enjoy the Chat-Room As Much As I Expect?
  • I Wonder Why I Wasn't Able to Enjoy the Chat-Room As Much As I Thought

 

  • Yesterday, I went to an English chat room in my city, and I was not able to get many chances to speak as usual.
  • Yesterday, I went to an English chat room in my city, and I wasn't able to get many chances to speak as much as usual.

 

  • I spoke two or three sentences for an hour.
  • I only spoke two or three sentences the whole hour.

 

  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry to speak English, because I tentatively expect me enjoying the chat in there.
  • After coming back home, I was still felt hungry to speak English, because usually I tentatively expect to enjoy chatting there.

 

  • We exchanged our languages for a while.
  • We exchanged our languages for a while.

 

  • I was satisfied anyway, not very full though..
  • I was satisfied but not very full though..

 

  • Maybe It's time I should think about why I was not able to enjoy it as much as I had expected.
  • Maybe it's time I should think about why I wasn't able to enjoy it as much as I had expected.

 

  • Another reason is that I'm not good at people in a group, I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.
  • Another reason is that I'm not good with people in a group. I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.

 
Feb 01st 2012 23:03 mirai
ラン、

Thank you for taking time to correct my entry!!!

Feb 01st 2012 14:50 KORO

I like one on one conversations better than those in big group settings too unless the other person is quiet. Have you thought of studying abroad?
Feb 01st 2012 23:10 mirai
Hi Koro,

It was too late that I realized that I'm not good at speaking in a group, because I've decided to take English lessons with two Japanese people, and I already paid for it.

I should've taken time to think about it. It will be a big challenge! Tomorrow is the first lesson..I wonder how it's going to be.

In my currect situation, I won't be able to go abroad to study, cus I have a husband who feels lonely easily~~~~^_^
Feb 02nd 2012 02:31 KORO
Oh no! I forgot about your husband! Yes, familiy is the most important thing. Think this way, group lessons can be really good practice for speaking in a group setting. It will train you to listen to others while catching an opportunity to speak out or respond to what others said. Good luck with your first lesson!
Feb 01st 2012 16:43 Joseph

you can talk to me on skype!

meeting one person is already nerve racking, meeting an entire group is tough!
Feb 01st 2012 23:13 mirai
Joseph,

Thank you for your offer!!! Let me think about it.. I need a courage!
Feb 02nd 2012 00:53 Joseph
why do you need courage?

i'm not gonna yell or get mad, lol
Feb 02nd 2012 06:40 mirai

Oh, yeah? You are not? lol
Feb 02nd 2012 07:47 Joseph
why would i?

i have no reason to get mad...
Feb 04th 2012 07:17 cuavsfan

  • Yesterday, I went to an English chat room in my city, and I was not able to get many chances to speak as usual.
  • Yesterday, I went to an English chat club in my city, but I was not able to get as many chances to speak as usual. (When I hear "chat room" I think of the internet, so I changed it to "club" here.)

 

  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry for speaking English, because I kind of try to force myself to expect to enjoy the chat there.
  • After coming back home, I still felt hungry to speak English, because I kind of try to force myself to expect to enjoy the chat there.

 

  • So, I took a shot at attending a chat room on the internet as soon as I got home.
  • So, I took a shot at attending a chat room on the internet as soon as I got home.

 

  • We exchanged languages for a while.
  • We traded off speaking English and Japanese for a while.

 

  • I was satisfied anyway; not very full though..
  • I was satisfied, but not completely..

 

  • I sometimes think about the value of "expectation." It is supposed to be a significant step to be positive, right?
  • I sometimes think about the value of "expectation." It is supposed to be a significant piece of being positive, right?

 

  • But still, at the same time, it could cause dissatisfaction if my expectations are not live up to.
  • But still, at the same time, it could cause dissatisfaction if my expectations are not lived up to.

 

  • Since I started going to the chat room, where there are an Aussie-teacher and other six Japanese people, I have been expecting more of it each time.
  • Since I started going to the chat club, where there is an Aussie-teacher and other six Japanese people, I have been expecting more of it each time.

 

  • Another reason is that I'm not good with people in a group, I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.
  • Another reason is that I'm not good with people in a group. I'm good at chatting one-on-one though.

 
I'm the same way. I'd feel uncomfortable trying to speak in Japanese in a group setting, but with just a couple of people I think I could do okay. やってみないとわかりませんね (^_^;)

偶然ですが、僕が先書いた日記はこのテーマとつながっています。良かったら、読んでみてください ^^

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